BariatricNurseD said:Semaglutide structural biology relevant to the pharmacology: semaglutide is a 31-amino acid peptide with 94% homology to native GLP-1(7-36).
Receptor pharmacology relevant to the pharmacology: semaglutide is a GLP-1R agonist with a C-18 fatty acid chain that enables albumin binding (>99%), creating a depot effect with a ~168-hour half-life enabling weekly dosing[1].
Tirzepatide is a dual GIP/GLP-1R agonist with higher GIP affinity (5:1 GIP:GLP-1 potency ratio). The GIP component may enhance beta-cell function and adipocyte lipid metabolism beyond what GLP-1 alone achieves.
For the pharmacology, the pharmacology explains the clinical differences between these agents.
[1] Lau J, et al. J Med Chem. 2015;58(18):7370-7380.
amsterdam_pete said:Reading about receptor desensitisation and trying to work out which of the effects adapt over time and which do not, because people clearly experience…
PK/PD modeling for the pharmacology: understanding the pharmacokinetics helps optimize dosing. Semaglutide:
- Tmax: 24-72 hours post-injection
- T½: ~168 hours (7 days) — enables weekly dosing
- Steady state: reached at 4-5 weeks
- Bioavailability (SubQ): ~89%
- Volume of distribution: ~12.5L (primarily plasma)
The albumin binding (>99%) is the key pharmacological innovation — creating a sustained-release effect from a single injection. Previous GLP-1 agonists (exenatide) required BID dosing due to rapid clearance.
Dr.NateNeph said:Receptor pharmacology relevant to the pharmacology: semaglutide is a GLP-1R agonist with a C-18 fatty acid chain that enables albumin binding (>99%),…
Amycretin (AMY/GLP-1 dual agonist) emerging data relevant to the pharmacology: Phase 1 showed -13.1% body weight at only 12 weeks, the fastest trajectory ever seen for an anti-obesity agent[1].
Amylin receptor agonism enhances satiety signaling through the area postrema and reduces glucagon secretion. Combined with GLP-1R agonism, this dual mechanism may produce even greater efficacy than current agents.
Early-stage data — interpret with caution. But the trajectory is extraordinary.
[1] Novo Nordisk investor presentation, September 2023.
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View ResultsOne thing that is still open after DadBodDave’s answer:
How long did you give it before you decided it was working?
OP back with an update, since a thread like this is useless without one.
Update — tachyphylaxis to the gastric effect, persistence of the appetite effect. Two curves, and I had been watching the wrong one.